ISSUES  ABOUT  CHILDREN:
CUSTODY,  SUPPORT,  VISITATION


CONTENTS OF THE CALIFORNIA DIVORCE COURSE (LITE EDITION)
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CONTENTS OF THE CALIFORNIA DIVORCE COURSE (FULL EDITION)


TOPICS IN THIS SECTION

- What are the issues about children in a California divorce?
- My spouse and kids have never lived in California.  Can I still get a divorce?

- How do we decide who gets custody?
- Can a man get custody if his wife agrees to it?
- What about joint-custody?
-Can the kids decide who they want to live with?

-My spouse won't let me see the kids until after the divorce.  What can I do?
- What's this stuff about being ordered to take classes for the kids?

- What should I expect in child-support?
- I'm getting custody and I have no idea how much my spouse is making.  How much should I ask for?
-How long does the child-support go on?
- Why do I have to pay through the Court system instead of just writing my ex a check?
- What if I'm already paying child-support from a previous marriage?
- What if my spouse and I agree on an amount for child-support that's different from the guidelines?
- Do I have to pay health insurance for the kids?
- I'm in the military.  What do I do about the health insurance?

- Is my pay-check going to be garnished?
- If I'm paying all of this child-support, do I get the tax-deduction for the kids?
- If my ex-spouse gets remarried, does my child-support go down?
- Suppose I'm not making this much money in the future and I can't afford this amount of support?

-What if she/he won't let me see the kids after the divorce.  Do I still have to pay the child-support?
- What kind of visitation can I expect?
- Do we have to follow the schedule of visitations?

-A Closer Look at the Issues About Children in the California Divorce. 

-Jurisdiction
-Custody
-The Different Types of Custody
- Pure Joint Custody
-How the System Deals With Child Support
- Looking at the Child Support Guidelines
- Getting the Child Support Print Out
- More About Visitation
- Supervised Visitation, No Visitation, Counselors and Mediators




WHAT ARE THE ISSUES ABOUT CHILDREN IN A CALIFORNIA DIVORCE?

    There are three basic issues having to do with children in a California divorce:
 1 - which parent gets custody;
 2 - how much support is the other parent going to pay;
 3 - what kind of visitation benefits will the other parent have.
    Through the years, all of these issues have been hammered into what lawyers refer to as a "standard package," so it's not really as complicated as they'd like for you to believe.

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MY SPOUSE AND KIDS HAVE NEVER LIVED IN CALIFORNIA.  CAN I STILL GET A DIVORCE?

    Yes, you can, but there's still some legal gobbledy-gook you need to understand going in.  What we're talking about here is "jurisdiction."  If you're a valid resident of California, then the California courts have jurisdiction over your divorce. 

    On the other hand, if your spouse and kids aren't residents of California, then the California courts have no jurisdiction over them.  The Family Code allows for what they call "long-arm jurisdiction," and specifies when and where the California Courts may have jurisdiction over non-residents.  California courts are supposed to have jurisdiction over non-residents only if:

- your spouse was served with citation while in California;

- your spouse consents to jurisdiction by filing a waiver of appearance or a response;

- you can demonstrate that California has some very strong connection with the case - for instance, the children were born here and lived here most of their lives.

Now, if your spouse files a formal answer with the Court saying that he or she is not a resident, (and you can't prove long-arm jurisdiction) then you're out of luck.  At that point, the Judge could still grant the divorce, but you'd need to hire a lawyer in your spouse's jurisdiction to have support and visitation set.  All of which would be a big fat mess.

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HOW DO WE DECIDE WHO GETS CUSTODY?

California law specifically states that both parties to a marriage should have an equal shot at custody and that the Courts can't discriminate in awarding custody on the basis of sex.  Which should be classified under, "Fairy tales I know and love." (Keep in mind, when we say "custody" here, we mean actual possession of the kids, not this moonshine they're calling Joint Custody right now.)

     The fact is that 99% of the time, the woman is going to get custody of minor children, unless she's done something really awful and you can prove it.  Most Judges and lawyers will tell you privately that they think that young children are better off with their mothers, even if they can't say it publicly anymore.  And, the younger the child, the more strongly they feel that.

    There are lawyers out there who'll tell you that they can you custody, even though you're a man.  They even have statistics to prove it, showing that men who have fought for custody have actually won on a fairly equal basis.  What they're not telling you is that most of those men are very wealthy individuals who could afford to hire teams of lawyers and private eyes and pay for contested hearing after contested hearing.  So, you plunk down several thousand dollars, you go into Court, you get your butt kicked, you're out all of that money, and now your ex-wife really, really hates you, but you've still got to work with her on visitation.  Not a good scenario.

     Whether you like it or not, that's the way it is for right now.  Doubtlessly, this will change as time passes, but right now the woman will probably get the kids, unless she agrees that the man should have custody.

 "That's an area where it's important for the man to be realistic.  We had a case not too long ago where the couple had been married less than a year, had a brand new baby, and she started finding receipts from the local motel in his wallet.  Sure enough, he's screwing around on her on his lunch breaks.  She files for divorce and he counter files asking for custody of the baby AND a five year old she had from a previous marriage, whom he'd never adopted.

Totally ridiculous and his lawyer knew it.  So, we end up in a contested case and several thousand dollars later the judge laughs the guy out of court.  He never did figure out Totally ridiculous.  The problem was that he had a mother and father who were willing to throw around a lot of money, and the guy'sthat his lawyer had lied to him - just thought he got an unreasonable judge."  - Don W. , Attorney at Law.

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CAN A MAN GET CUSTODY IF HIS WIFE AGREES TO IT?
 
       Absolutely.  There are some very courageous women who sincerely felt that the kids would be better off with the husband, usually for financial reasons.  Keep in mind, however, that this is still a very, very unusual decision for a woman to make in our society.  Even if she initially agrees to it, she's going to be under tremendous pressure from her family and friends to change her mind.  "Oh, my Gawd, you're giving up your kids??? How could you do that?  What kind of a woman are you?  Blah, blah, blah."

      If she should change her mind while you're waiting for the divorce, you're right back at square one, and you probably can't win. For this reason, it's very important to be as supportive and reassuring as you can possibly be, in this type of a case.  Your wife needs to feel absolutely sure that she's made the right decision and that she's going to have full access to the children under the visitation laws.

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WHAT ABOUT JOINT-CUSTODY?

Well, California officially endorses joint custody, but to a certain extent its smoke and mirrors.

    The original idea behind joint custody is that two people grow up in the same little town, get married and divorced in the same little town, and continue to rear their kids in the same little town.  Under those circumstances, why shouldn't the kids spend 50% of their time with one parent and 50% with the other parent?

    All of which is well and good until it runs into reality.  When the kids reach school age, they've got to be in one school district or another for about 9 months out of the year.  Most divorced couples in a modern society don't live in the same towns after a divorce, much less the same school districts.  So, basically, you end up with one parent having possession of the children the majority of the time and the other having visitation on weekends and holidays, which is pretty much the standard package of visitation. You can read much more about different types of custody at the end of this page in the closer look section.

 "It's an area that people have trouble with, because it's difficult for them to project themselves into what their lives are going to be like in the future.  How close to each other are they actually going to live?  How are they going to juggle working, dating new people, and taking care of their children?  There's a tendency to think of it as it is right now, and that doesn't work.  The court has to anticipate future difficulties and deal with the at the time that the divorce is granted."  - Martha T. , Attorney at Law

   

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CAN THE KIDS DECIDE WHO THEY WANT TO LIVE WITH?

    Generally speaking, no.  Kids aren't considered competent to make their own living arrangements.  Judges are also aware of the fact that parents will many times pressure the kids to live with them.  Around the age of 12 or 13, the Judge will usually be willing to listen to the desires of the child, but he or she won't be bound by those desires.  If the child is  an older teenager,  such as the age of  16 or 17, the judge will probably go along with the child's decision.

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MY SPOUSE WON'T LET ME SEE THE KIDS UNTIL AFTER THE DIVORCE.  WHAT CAN I DO?

    This isn't an unusual situation, because many parents are afraid that the other party is going to take the kids and run.  And in some cases, that's a very realistic fear.  There are several things you can do, depending on how radical you want to get about it.

- You can lay back and wait for your six months to pass.  Once you've got your divorce decree, you've got a Court order for visitation which most ex-spouses will obey.  If she/he won't honor it then, you can take her/him to Court for contempt and possibly even ask for custody, based on being alienated from your children.

- You can try to arrange visitation in a supervised, neutral environment until the divorce comes through.  Many counties have arrangements through the superior court system or child welfare to provide safe, neutral environments for visitation.  Some people arrange for it to be at the house of a trusted counselor or pastor.  The main thing is to assure your spouse that you aren't trying to snatch the kids, you just want to see them.

- If you want to get really radical, you can hire a lawyer for what they call a "super-deluxe" divorce.  That means that you have your spouse served with papers immediately, you go into Court immediately, the Judge orders visitation and support pending the final hearing on the divorce, and you're both placed under restraining orders compelling you to obey the Court. (These are much more complex restraining orders than the automatic restraining orders that go into effect when you file for divorce.)

While super-deluxe divorces are sometimes necessary, in most cases you should avoid them like poison.  It's not at all unusual for the other party to ask that you be ordered to pay attorney fees, you're going to be paying huge attorney fees for your own lawyer, temporary support will probably be higher than normal support, and you're doing all of that for a six month period, if you're lucky.  If you're not lucky, your spouse and her/his lawyer will stretch the divorce out as long as possible so that they can keep emptying your pockets on a regular basis.  Not a good deal to get into, if you can avoid it.

 "One of the things that you worry about is people putting too much faith in restraining orders.  I had a case early in my career where the woman was married to a biker who was pretty violent with her.  I did all of the right things - went in to court, got the support and temporary custody orders.  He had weekend visitation and he took off with the kid.  And, that biker subculture, he had a million places to hide.  We never were able to find him."

Pete K., Attorney at Law

      
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WHAT'S THIS STUFF ABOUT BEING ORDERED TO TAKE CLASSES FOR THE KIDS?

    Well, this is one of the most putrid pieces of family law that's come down the pike in a while, but it's probably here to stay since do-gooders of all stripes love it.   In several of the counties in California it is now mandatory that you take a course in parenting and the impact of divorce on children before you can get the divorce.  Many people find this extremely intrusive and don't feel that they need lessons in how to take care of their kids, but there it is.  You can find out if you're one of the lucky ones by calling your superior court clerk, or looking at the court site on the internet.

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WHAT SHOULD I EXPECT IN CHILD-SUPPORT?

California has a set of guidelines for determining child support.  That's good, in that takes you out of the old days when a Judge could really sock it to you just because he didn't like the way you were dressed.  It's bad because California, true to form, has come up with a set of guidelines that's so complicated that it's almost indecipherable.  You literally need a computer program to figure it out.  We'll have more detail about that later on, but it basically takes into account both parties net incomes and then it factors in what they call, "time share."   And, no, thats not a deal with a vacation condominium its the amount of time that each person has the child.

 "My gut feeling is that the current guidelines are far from perfect.  You know, well over 50% of the people getting divorced in California are representing themselves now.  So, you have this godawful formula that you have to run on a computer, in order to propose child support.  But, that premises that, (a )- most people are computer literate and will have no trouble running it, and; (b) - most people have access to the program.  Unfortunately, a lot of people don't even have computers, and the program to run it still hasn't been put on the internet by the Judicial Council.  So, of course, you have people showing up at court with no proposed figure and that just clogs up the system again."
 - Antonio A., Attorney at Law.

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I'M GETTING CUSTODY AND I HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH MONEY MY SPOUSE IS MAKING.  WHAT SHOULD I ASK FOR?

    Of course, the first thing you should do is to try to find out.  If you can't find out, you should calculate his/her income at the federal minimum wage, based on a 40 hour work week.

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HOW LONG DOES THE CHILD-SUPPORT GO ON?

    You pay child-support until the child turns 18 or finishes high school.  They threw in the part about high school because a certain number of parents were stopping payment at the 18th birthday, despite the fact that the child was still in school.  It's just there to see that kids don't have to drop out to support themselves when they're in their senior year.  You can stop paying child-support before the 18th birthday if your child becomes a legal adult by getting married or joining the military.  In some cases, where the child is severely impaired mentally or physically, the support can go on past the 18th birthday.  You can also agree, in a Marital Settlement Agreement, for the support to go on past the 18th birthday and into college.

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WHY DO I HAVE TO PAY THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM INSTEAD OF JUST WRITING MY EX A CHECK?

    Paying through the Court system is for the protection of both parties.  When you pay through the system, you have a written record of your payments each month, so that your ex can never claim that you failed to support your child.  Never, never ever make a child support payment directly to your ex-spouse.

 "I had a client who got caught in that trap.  His ex-wife kept calling him up before the monthly payment was due and saying she was short on money.  He was a very nice, but not very bright, guy and he'd give her the money in cash and not get any receipts.  She turned around and claimed he was in arrears and he had to make all of those payments twice."  Kevin G., Attorney at Law

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WHAT IF I'M ALREADY PAYING
CHILD-SUPPORT FROM A PREVIOUS MARRIAGE?

      The child support guidelines take that into account.  Your payment is based on your net income, not your gross.

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WHAT IF MY SPOUSE AND I AGREE ON AN AMOUNT FOR CHILD-SUPPORT THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM THE GUIDELINES?

      The Judge has the authority to set support in an amount that's different from the guidelines if both parties agree to it.  In many cases, the parent who isn't getting custody genuinely feels that the guidelines don't offer enough support and they want to pay more.  The Court will always approve that.

    In other cases, the husband and wife may agree to an amount that is less than the guidelines, but the Judge will take a good hard look at that.  Judges are not comfortable straying from the guidelines unless there is some really substantial reason for doing so.  By substantial, I do not mean, "Gee, I want to get married to another woman and we'll need the extra money," or "I don't want his damned money."  Remember that you want your hearing to go as smoothly as possible, and the best way to accomplish that is to stick to the guidelines.

 "Proposing an amount that's under the guidelines is like painting a great big target on your face and handing the judge a gun.  It's a sure fire way to get your case red-flagged."  Pete K., Attorney at Law

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DO I HAVE PAY FOR HEALTH INSURANCE FOR THE KIDS?

   Yup.  Under California law, that's considered part of your child support, in addition to the cash amount that you're ordered to pay.  If you have an insurance policy you can take out at your place of business, you can do that.  If you don't and your ex-spouse can get it through his/her place of business, you can get it there and you pay the premiums.  In any case, this just makes financial sense, since you go on being financially responsible for your child's medical bills, regardless of the divorce.  There are other additional costs that you may be ordered to pay, such as a portion of the cost of child care or travel expenses for visitation.
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I'M IN THE MILITARY.  WHAT DO I DO ABOUT THE INSURANCE?

    If you're in the military, your responsibilility is to see that the kids get their I.D cards, so that they're covered medically.  They go on being military dependants whether you divorce or not, so they're still elibible. Just go down to your I.D. section, tell them you're getting divorced, and they'll take it from there.

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IS MY PAY-CHECK GOING TO BE GARNISHED?

It can be.  One more outrageous example of the California Family Code treating people like criminals before they've done anything wrong.

 
    The Family Code says that garnishment will be ordered with every case, but it isn't served with every case.  In other words, when you get your divorce, the Judge is going to sign an order garnishing your pay-check. You can request that the order not be served on the payor's employer and the Judge may or may not go along with it. If he/she does, they take that signed order and put it in the Court file.  As long as you pay your support on time, it usually just stays in the file.  At any time, though, your ex-spouse has the right to go in and ask that the order be served on your employer.  Basically, then, it's just a weapon they've got to use if you don't do what you were ordered to do.

    We should note here that the garnishment order can be served immediately.  If your spouse or the Judge wants it, it can go out the day of the divorce.  Always a good idea to let your employer know about it in advance, so that they don't end up thinking you've done something wrong.

 "We're in a transitional period with the garnishments.  In the past, garnishments were associated with wrong-doing, with dead-beat Dads.  If your boss got a garnishment order, it was almost a disgrace.  There are so many states where they're virtually automatic, though, that they're fairly common-place by now.  Hell, it's probable that your boss is having his own wages garnished."  Don W. , Attorney at Law

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IF I'M PAYING ALL OF THIS CHILD-SUPPORT, DO I GET THE TAX DEDUCTION FOR THE KIDS?

     Probably not, unless your spouse agrees to it.  The IRS says, on the one hand, that if you're paying more than half of the support of a child, then you should get the deduction.  BUT, they also say that your ex-spouse has to voluntarily fill out a waiver, giving you the deduction each year.  Basically, then, if you guys are on good terms, you can do what you want to about it every year.  If you're not, he or she can't be ordered to sign the waiver.  Yet another reason to stay on good terms with your ex.
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IF MY EX-SPOUSE GETS REMARRIED, DOES MY CHILD-SUPPORT GO DOWN?

    Nope.  They're your kids and your responsibility.  Your child-support is based on your income, not someone else's.

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SUPPOSE I'M NOT MAKING THIS MUCH MONEY IN THE FUTURE AND I CAN'T AFFORD THIS AMOUNT OF SUPPORT?
 
    Either party can go back into Court at any time after the divorce and ask that the divorce decree be modified if there's been a substantial change in circumstances.  So what do we mean by that?

    Well, suppose you're a professional roofer and you're making pretty good money.  Then one day you fall off a roof and break your back and you're confined to a wheel chair.  You could then go back into Court and realistically tell the Judge that your ability to make money had been vastly diminished.

    On the other hand, if you're just between jobs or you've intentionally chosen to make less money than you could, that doesn't do it.  The support order is based on your ability to make money, not necessarily what you're earning.  If you do have a temporary loss of income, usually you can contact your ex-spouse and tell him/her that the support will be a little less until you get back on your feet.  Send in as much as you can, with a written explanation promising to make up the back support as soon as possible.  If you're really being sincere in your efforts, you usually won't get into trouble over a situation like that.

In some really extraordinary cases, they can even go after your new spouses income or property if youve chosen to be radically under-employed and your new spouse has been abetting that.

 "I've seen a few legitimate cases along those lines.  I had one client who was in an automobile accident and ended up as a paraplegic.  Not only could he not pay child support, but he needed support himself.  In the vast majority of cases, though, the curve goes the other way:  people tend to be making more several years after the divorce, not less." Michael M., Attorney at Law

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WHAT IF SHE/HE WON'T LET ME SEE THE KIDS AFTER THE DIVORCE?  DO I STILL HAVE TO PAY CHILD-SUPPORT?

    Yes.  You're under a Court order to pay support and your spouse is under an order to provide visitation.  They're two separate orders and they're not linked together.  If your ex won't let you see the kids, the appropriate thing to do is to go back into Court, not to disobey the Court yourself.

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WHAT KIND OF VISITATION CAN I EXPECT?



    The basic package involves alternating weekends,every other major holiday, every other birthday, and time in the summer. There are a vast number of variations that you can do on that.  For instance, different religions have different holidays, so you may be building your visitation schedule around Kwanza instead of Christmas.  Or, perhaps it's much more important to you to have the kids for your mother's birthday, rather than Fathers/Mothers day.  You have a lot of flexibility in that, especially if youre using a Marital Settlement Agreement.

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DO WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE SCHEDULE OF VISITATIONS?

    No, and many parents don't.  Frequently after a divorce, the two parties realize that they need to work with each other on rearing the children and they decide on their own visitation schedules.  The schedule is just there in case there are problems down the road.  If your ex suddenly decides to start giving you a hard time about seeing the kids, you're guaranteed at least that much visitation.

 "Oh, yes, people start cooperating with each other, for the most part.  It's normal for there to be a certain amount of anger and suspicion during a divorce.  After the dust settles down, though, they work it out.  Maybe Dad likes to take the kids to baseball games during the week and Mom has no problem with that.  Or Mom just really needs a nice quiet weekend alone, so she asks Dad to take the kids, even though it's not on the visitation schedule. "  Martha T., Attorney at Law

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A CLOSER LOOK AT THE ISSUES ABOUT CHILDREN IN THE CALIFORNIA DIVORCE

There is probably no issue in a divorce that is more likely to cause problems than the emotions surrounding the children of the marriage.  In many cases, neither party has done anything wrong and both parties are good, devoted parents.  The idea of suddenly having to see your children on a court ordered schedule is heart breaking, both to the parents and to the children.  The idea of having wages garnished when you've always been a responsible provider is infuriating.  But, its very important to keep a cool head and work together for the sake of the children.  Whether or not you are husband and wife in the future, you will always be your children's parents, and you will need to work together for years to rear them into good, strong adults.

 

Jurisdiction

 

For many years, there was a serious problem in the United States with parents snatching the children and running off to other states.  It might take months to locate them, only to find that they'd already filed for custody in the state they ran to.  Or, a parent might shop for convenient forums.  If the child support payments ordered in Arkansas were much lower than those ordered in California, a man might choose to file there, even though his wife and children had never resided in Arkansas.

Gradually, the federal government and the individual states have built in laws to regulate who actually has jurisdiction and to be sure that law suits affecting the parent-child relationship are filed in the appropriate courts.  In most divorce cases in California, there isn't a problem with that at all.  Most couples both live in the state and the children have been reared here, so there's no question of California having jurisdiction over the children.  The general rules are along the same lines as the requirements for residency in a divorce.  If the child has lived here for over six months, California can exercise jurisdiction.  If the child is less than six months old but was born here and has lived here since he/she was born, California can still exercise jurisdiction.

Now, lets talk about some cases where you might, or might not, run into trouble with jurisdiction.

  Jerry and Delores get married in Alabama, and Jerry goes into the Army.  They have a couple of kids, and many separated tours of duty.  Over the years, they gradually drift apart from each other and Jerry's stationed in California, while Delores lives in Alabama with the kids.  Jerry files for a divorce in California, proposes that Delores get custody of the kids and he offers good child support. 

Delores takes the divorce papers to an attorney to have them reviewed.  He realizes that Jerry is offering much better child support than Delores would get in Alabama, so he advises her to sign off on the divorce and that's just what she does.  
In that case, California had no jurisdiction over Delores or the kids.  But, they submitted to California jurisdiction because Jerry was being reasonable and they had no reason to fight over it.
 
Okay, let's switch that around a little.  Let's say that Jerry and Delores were married in California and the kids had lived here all of their lives. Jerry files for divorce in Alabama and proposes much lower child support than Delores could get here.  In that case, it would only make sense for Delores to counter file saying that Alabama had no connection with the kids and therefore lacked the jurisdiction to order child support.  Jerry could still get his divorce in Alabama, but he'd have to settle the issues about the children in the California courts. 

Here's another example:  Katie and Mike are married in California and rear their children here for years.  Katie complains that they're fighting all of the time and that she wants a trial separation.  She goes to live with her parents in Texas for awhile, and Mike stays in California, expecting that she'll return with the kids after she's cooled off.  Six months later, he gets divorce papers from Texas, with very limited visitation benefits.

Now, six months is the residency requirement in Texas, so Katie filed for the divorce legally.  BUT . . . Mike is able to file counter file, because California clearly has a much stronger connection with the children than Texas does.So, if either party and the children live outside of the state of California, it can be very important to look at those issues of jurisdiction.  Have the kids ever lived here?  If they have, how long have they been gone?  Does California clearly have a stronger connection with the children than the other state?
 

If the answer is no, you'll want to take extra care to be reasonable and generous in dealing with your soon to be ex.  If you can come to agreements on support and visitation, you'll be way ahead of the game.  If you can't, you may end up paying two sets of lawyers, one to represent you here and the other to represent you where your spouse and children live.

 

Custody

  California is one of the many states that has moved to the Joint Custody model.  In some very real senses, its not joint custody at all:  one parent usually gets possession of the child and the other parent gets visitation privileges and pays child support.  While that may sound deceptive, there are some good reasons for calling it joint custody.  It tends to keep people more involved with their kids and you never have to have that conversation about, "Why did you give me up?"

 

The Different Types of Custody

 

In order to understand it a little better, it might be good to talk a little bit about the different kinds of custody.  In the average California divorce, both parents come out of it with legal custody.. That means that the court continues to recognize both of you as the legal parents fo your children.

  In the past, however, one parent (usually the mother) was given physical custody of the children.  That meant that he/she had the right to establish the physical residence of the children and had much broader rights with the children than the other parent.  For instance, in many states, the parent who did not have physical custody didn't have the right to consult with physicians or teachers, and could only seek medical care for the children in emergencies.

Now, with joint custody it is still usual for one parent to have physical custody, in that he or she has the right to establish the primary residence of the child and the child spends most of his/her time at that residence.  But . . . joint custody also builds in many rights for the parent who doesn't have physical custody that weren't there before.  They have full rights to seek medical care, to consult with physicians and teachers, to make normal medical decisions, etc.  To a much greater extent than before, parental rights are granted jointly.

 

Pure Joint Custody

 

Many parents will try to avoid the painful issue of parting with their children by insisting that they should have, "pure," joint custody.  In other words, what they want is a finding from the court that they both have the right to establish the residence of the child and they both have full parental rights with no limitations at all.

  Which is a little like saying, "Well, I want to join the Army, but I'm not going to wear that uniform."  When you file for a divorce, you are submitting yourself to the jurisdiction of the court, and the judge is there to order what he/she thinks is best for the kids.

If you had a situation like our great grand parents did, then pure joint custody might actually make sense.  If you lived in one little town, with one school district and neither one of you were ever going to leave, there would be no reason at all that the children couldn't spend Monday at Mom's house and Tuesday at Dad's.  When you translate that into modern life, however, it gets a lot more complex.Most people don't want to live right down the street from their ex-wives or ex-husbands.  They tend to move a fair distance apart from each other after the divorce.  So, if Dad picks little Joey up after school on Monday, drives an hour to get home, and then drives an hour to get him back to school the next morning, little Joey is spending one hell of a lot of time in a car.  Basically, little Joey is being turned into a human ping pong ball because his parents aren't willing to deal with the fact that divorced people live in separate neighborhoods. 

And the judge won't let that happen.  You and your spouse may swear up and down that there are no problems between the two of you, you're absolute best friends, and there's no reason for the court to get involved.  It's not the job of the court to just deal with what's happening right now, though.  It's the job of the court to deal with what may happen down the road and be sure that the children are protected.  For that reason, it is very unlikely that a judge will order pure joint custody, and you'll just have to get used to it.

 

How the System Deals with Child Support

  In all probability, one of you is going to be ordered to pay child support.  And, before you even file your petition for dissolution, you need to have some idea of what that child support should be.  Fortunately and unfortunately California has a set of child support guidelines to determine what youll be paying.

 

Looking at the Child Support Guidelines

 
In the old days, child support orders might vary wildly from county to county and judge to judge.  It was not unusual for every large county to have at least one mean S.O.B. of a judge who handed out huge support orders.  With the guidelines, you at least know generally what your'e going to be ordered to pay, and the judge is generally bound by the rules.
 

The unfortunate part of the child support guidelines is that they are so complex.  If you've lived in California for a while, you know that our government never makes anything simple if they have a chance to make it complicated.  And they sure as hell did that with the support guidelines.  They are so complex that you are required to have a computer printout that calculates it, and it has to be from a computer program that the California Judicial Council approves.

As you might imagine, that was a miniature gold mine for lawyers for a while.  They had the programs and they could charge anything they wanted to run them for you.  Fortunately, the programs are fairly easy to access for even us mortals now days, and you dont have to spend a fortune to do it. 

If you live in one of the larger cities, you can usually run the program for free at the county law library.  If you dont live in one of those cities, weve listed a couple of sites on the internet where you can run them for less than 15 bucks. 

Now, lets talk about how the guidelines work.  Here's the basic formula for determining child support.  (If you hate math, hang in there.  You dont have to do this, you just need to know what it is that they're looking for, so that you can plug the numbers into the computer programs.)

 

CS = K[HN (H%)(TN)

 

where

 

CS = child support

 

HN = the higher earners net income

 

H% = the amount of time that the higher earner will actually have physical possession of the children

 

(TN) = the total net earnings of both parents.

 

If you really, really hate math, then you're probably starting to feel a little sweaty and nauseated right now.  Take a break, wash your face, and come back when youve calmed down. Or skip down to the section below about how to get your computer printout.


Now, you may have noticed that we didn't mention what K stood for.  That's because it's variable.  It stands for the percentage of the parent's combined net incomes that's going to child support, but it varies by H%, the amount of time that the high earner will actually have possession of the children.  If the high earner has possession of the children 50% or less of the time, then K is equal to:

 

(1+H%) times the Monthly Wage Fraction.

 

If the high earner has possession of the children over 50% of the time, then K is equal to:

 

(2-H%) times the Monthly Wage Fraction.

 

And now you're thinking, "What in the hell is the Monthly Wage Fraction?"  Well, here it is:

 

If you're making $800.00 or less each month, your monthly wage fraction is .20 + the total net earnings of both parents, divided by 16,000.

 

If you're making between $800.00 and $6,666.00 then your wage fraction is just plain .25.

 

If you're making between $6, 667.00 and $10,000.00 each month, then your wage fraction is .10+1000 divided by the total net earnings of both parties.

 

If you're making over $10,000.00 each month, then your wage fraction is .12 +800 divided by the total net earnings of both parties.

We swear were not making this up.  This is actually what the California Family Code says.  And people say lawyers make things complicated.  Ha!

  Now, if you're good at math and youre mind hasn't gone completely numb at this point, you may have noticed that there's one other thing missing in all of this:  H% - the total amount of time that the high earner will actually have possession of the child.
 
For some reason, the state government hasn't come up with some incredibly
complex formula where you multiply the size of your underwear by the distance you live from your ex-spouse and divide it by 2.6, except when the moon's full, when you divide it by 3.5.  But, we do have a dandy little chart that the county of Santa Clara came up with, that will give you a general idea.  (You may want to check with your own county to see if they have a time share chart available.)

 

(1) Time Sharing Arrangements
 

 

 

Days

%

a.

1 weekend per mo.

24

7

b.

1 extended weekend per mo.

36

10

c.

2 weekends/mo

48

13

d.

1 weekend/mo + 1 evening/wk

50

14

e.

Alternate weekends

52

14

f.

Alternate weekends + 2 wks summer

67

18

g.

Alternate weekends & ½ holidays + 2 wks summer

69

19

 

(If CP has 2 wks over summer too, then)

67

18

h.

Two extended weekends/month

72

20

i.

Alternate weekends + 1 evening/wk

78

21

j.

Alternate weekends + 1 overnight/wk

104

28

k.

Alternate extended weekends

78

21

l.

Alternate weekends & ½ holidays + 4 wks summer, (with alternating weekends continuing in summer, and makeup if weekends lost due to the 4 weeks)

77

21

m.

Alternate weekends & ½ holidays + 4 weeks summer (with no alternating weekends all summer)

75

21

n.

Alternate weekends & ½ holidays + ½ summer (with or without alternate weekends in summer)

82

22

o.

Alternate extended weekends + 1 evening/wk

104

28

p.

Alternate extended weekends + 1 overnight/wk

130

36

q.

Alternate weekends & ½ holidays, 1 evening/wk, + 4 wks summer (with alternating weekends continuing in summer, and makeup if weekends lost due to the 4 weeks)

103

28

r.

Alternate weekends and 1 evening/wk when school is in session, + ½ school vacations

104

28

s.

Three days/wk

156

43

t.

First, third, and fifth weekends

56

15

u.

First, third, fifth, extended weekends

84

23

v.

First, third, and alternate fifth weekends

52

14

w.

First, third, alternate fifth extended weekends

78

21

(Eff. 1/1/04)

(2) Definitions

a. Weekend - 6 p.m. Friday 6 p.m. Sunday (2 days)

b. Extended Weekend - School closing Fri. school opening Mon. (3 nights, 2 days)

c. 1st & 2nd; or 2nd & 4th Weekends - Same as Two Weekends per month

d. 1st & 3rd, & alternating 5th Weekends - Same as Alternate Weekends

e. Afternoon - After school until evening without dinner (1/4 day)

f. Evening - After school after dinner (½ day; 1 eve./wk=26 days/year)

g. Overnight - School close mid-week School opening next day (1 day) (1 day; 1 overnight/week = 52 days/year)

h. Holidays - New Years, Presidents Day, Easter, Memorial Day, Mothers Day or Fathers Day, July 4, Labor Day, Thanksgiving (2 days), Christmas,  (½ holidays = 5 days/year)

i. Summer - 10 weeks (70) days; some schools may vary, such as those using an all year calendar

j. School Vacations - Summer, 2 wks Christmas, 1 wk Spring, (13 wks/year; ½ vacations = 45.5 days/year, not counting subtraction of NCPs ordinary alternate weekend and mid-week visits and  CPs cross visits)

 

Okay, so now weve got all of the variables that we need.  Let's look at an example of how it would work.  Bob and Lu are getting divorced and they have two kids.  Bob's net monthly pay is $4,000.00 and Lu's is $3,000.00, so that makes Bob the high earner, with a combined monthly net of $7,000.00.  Lu's getting custody and they've agreed on a visitation package like the one listed as," l", in the time share chart.  That's every other weekend, half the holidays and 4 weeks in the summer and that's 21% of the time. So, we take the basic formula and fill in their information:

CS = K[HN (H%)(TN)]

CS = K[4000 (.21)(7000)]

And now we have to figure out K.

(1+H%) times the Monthly Wage Fraction because Bob is going to have possession of the children less than 50% of the time.  So, K=(1+.21)=1.21 times the monthly wage fraction which is .25 and that equals 0.3025

 

So . . .

 

CS = 0.3025[4000 (.21)(7000)]

 

CS = 0.3025(4000 1470)

 

CS = 0.3025(2530)

 

CS = 765.32

 

But wait . . . just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water . . . there's another chart you need.

 

If you have 2 children, you multiply CS by 1.6

  3 children by 2 

4 children by 2.3
 

5 children by 2.5


 6 children by 2.625
 

If you have more than six children you're probably too tired to do any of this anyway, so well just stop there.

 

So, Bob's total child support is going to be 765.32 X 1.6 which equals 1224.52.

 

Getting the Child Support Print Out

 

Now, we showed you all of that gobbledeegook just so you'd know what information you need to get your computer printout to present to the court.  Even if you're a math whiz or a masochist, you can't do your own calculations by hand.  You've got to have a print out from a program certified by the California Judicial Council.

  And, as you saw above, you're going to need the following information: 

Both partie's net monthly incomes (your paychecks after all of the deductions and/or union wages, etc.)  If you can't find out what your spouse is making, you can calculate it based on what they made when you were still with them, or you can calculate it on minimum wage for a 40 hour work week.

  And, you're going to need the approximate time share percentage.  To get that, you figure out what kind of visitation package the parent who is not getting possession of the child has, and then you find the percentage on the time share chart that we listed above.

 If you live in one of the larger counties, you can take that information down to the county law library and use one of their computer programs.  If you have very little money, you can go to your county Family Law Facilitator and ask them to run it for you.  Another alternative is to pull out your phone book and look for paralegal services who offer child support calculation services.  And, you can also do the calculations on the internet.  Here are three services we found in about ten minutes on Google:

 

SupportScan

http;//www.supportscan.com/

They charge 15 dollars for the first three times that you use the calculator and 5 dollars for each time thereafter.  In other words, if you used it 4 times you'd be charged 20 bucks.  It also appears to be pretty user friendly:  you're only charged when you make the calculation so if you have to back out of it because you don't have all of the information that you need, theres no charge.

 

Elk Grove Paralegal

http://www.lagunaparalegal.com

This is a paralegal service that does the calculations for you on their computer.  They charge $20.00.

 

Brian Levy, Attorney at Law

http://www.calattorney.net/family/support/html

This is an attorney offering what are called, "unbundled services."  In other words, you can go to get some of the things done that you need on your divorce, without having to hire an attorney for the whole shebang.  They charge $29.95 to run the calculation.

You're not going to submit the actual printout until the end of the divorce, when you file your judgment with the court.  It's important to have it at the beginning, though, because you need a fairly accurate idea of what the child support is going to be, in order to inform your spouse.

More About Visitation

As we said before, you have a great deal of latitude in setting up your visitation package.  If you're doing a Marital Settlement Agreement, you can set up virtually anything you like, as long as its reasonable.

By, reasonable, we mean that it doesn't put an unreasonable burden on the children or either parent.  For instance, it's not unusual to hear the parent who is not getting possession of the child say something like, "Well, if she's got the child all of the time, why shouldn't I have visitation every single weekend, every single holiday, and all summer long?"  The problem with that approach, of course, is that the parent with possession ends up having all of the responsible time and none of the fun time.

Here's an example of a normal visitation package.  Sally is the parent with full possession of the child.  Jim picks the child up at 6:00 p.m. every other Friday night and returns the child at 6:00 p.m. on Sunday night.  Every other week, he picks the child up at 6:00 p.m. on Wednesday and takes her to school the next morning.

Jim also gets the child every other major holiday, every other year.  In other words, he gets the child for a week at Thanksgiving one year and a week at Christmas the next.  He gets the child for every Father's Day and on her birthday every other year.  And, he gets the child for 60 days in the summer, every summer.

That's the kind of a schedule that works very well for two people who live fairly close together.  But suppose Jim lives two hundred miles away?  Obviously, he's not going to be able to pick the child up on Wednesday evenings and bring her to school on Thursdays.  Even the weekend visitations get very problematic with that much driving involved.  In that kind of a situation, you might want to increase the summertime visitation to compensate Jim for all of the times that he's not able to see his daughter during the rest of the year.  If Jim moves back into the area, Sally can always go back in to court and modify the visitation schedule again.

Supervised Visitation, No Visitation, Counselors and Mediators

In some very rare cases, there may be reason to ask for visitation to be supervised, or even for there to be no visitation at all.  Those cases have to involve something extremely serious, such as child abuse or non-recovering alcoholism or drug addiction.  In other words, you have to be able to prove that the other parent is a severe and continuing threat to the childs welfare.

Unfortunately, lawyers do see a certain number of requests for supervised visitation that aren't based on real threats.  There are new mothers out there, for instance, who feel that men just aren't bright enough to figure out how to put on a diaper or heat milk.  There are men out there who feel that their ex-wives having sex with someone in the same house as their child is some kind of terrible threat to the child's morality.  And, the best advice that lawyers can give in those circumstances is, "Get over it."

If the parents absolutely can't cooperate on a visitation schedule, or there are allegations of some sort of a threat to the children, a judge has a couple of options in California.  He/she can order you to see a mediator.  That means that you sit down with a third party who knows about solving disputes and you try to hash it out.  In many cases, thats just someone telling you what reality is and what's going to be ordered by the court whether you like it or not.  "No, Mrs. Jones, you can't restrict his visitation because he has a couple of beers at night."  Or, "No, Mr. Jones, you can't require that your wife never has sex again as a condition of custody."

If there are indications of something seriously wrong, a judge can also order the parents to see a counselor for therapy, for up to a year.  That's basically saying, "For the sake of the kids, you need to get your heads together and I'm going to see that you do."

If neither one of those solutions work out, you can, of course, have a contested case.  You go in front of the judge, with or without lawyers, and you present your evidence and the judge enters his/her orders. In cases where there really is a threat to the children, you may very well end up with some sort of restricted visitation, but it has to be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.  In other words, you can't just say, "Well, I think he drinks too much."  You've got to have evidence of DUIs and arrests for public intoxication.

In cases where there is no such evidence, you're going to end up with exactly what you would have gotten if youd been sensible and cooperated with each other.  The only difference is that youll probably be out a lot of money.